Friday, August 31, 2012

Army List: Dual Baal Predators!



So at our local store we're playing in a campaign where its a 1500pt army list with a 500 pt sideboard that can be swapped before each game.   My list for that campaign consists of:

Reclusiarch in Terminator Armour with Stormbolter and Power Maul

5 Assault Terminators with Thunderhammer and Stormshields

1 Sanguinary Priest with Terminator Armour and Power Sword/Axe (I have this magnetized)

1 Sanguinary Priest with Jump Pack

1 Furiouso Dread with bolter and melta in a Drop Pod with a Locator Beacon (for the Termies to teleport in)

10 man squad of Assault Marines, Sargeant has a Stormshield and Thunderhammer

10 man squad of Tactical Marines with 1 Plasma Gun, 1 Plasma Cannon and Sargeant has a Combi Plasma

5 man squad of Scout Marine Snipers with Camo Cloaks, Sargeant has a Missile Launcher

1 Stormraven with Twinlinked MultiMelta, Twinlinked Lascannon, Hurricane Bolter Sponsons and a Locator Beacon


I've only played one game and did relatively well against a Coteaz Grey Knights army, though it was very bloody.   Unfortunately the Dread just landed whiffed on its melta shot on a transport and then proceeded to die the next turn.   The Snipers also weren't terribly effective even with the missile launcher.  So, I decided to make a change (for my regular list, this list is unfortunately locked for the remainder of the campaign).

So, I've been realizing more and more how awesome assault cannons are in 6th edition.   Their Rending ability can demolish all armour and infantry, and even if you don't rend, the Assault Cannon can take on most light armour and pretty much all infantry all at a 36 inch range.   Also Armour 13 on Vehicles is getting to the point where its a must.   Hmmm I wonder what unit in the Blood Angels has both of these features...  oh right, Baal Predators!

So, my current lists going forward have not just one but two Baal Predators and they will replace the Dreadnought and Sniper Squad.   I've given a couple great strengths above but there are more advantages to the Baal Predator.   It's a Fast vehicle so you can move 6 inches and still fire all your weapons at full BS.  At 12 inches they can fire 2 weapons at full BS with the rest at Snap shots.   Also, when moving Flat Out, they get another 12 inches of movement.   These suckers are fast!

The Baal Predator also has the Scout rule, which in 6th edition means they can redeploy 12" AFTER both sides deploy.   I feel this rule is better in 6th because it is a redeployment and not an extra movement so you dont have to worry about travelling through difficult terrain and immobilizing your vehicle.   Just plop it where you want.

Before I show my list, I also want to say that with my vehicles I like to put as many weapons on them as possible and not just for firepower reasons (points permitting of course).    In 6th edition, when you get a Weapon Destroyed Penetrating Hit result, the weapon is chosen randomly so the more weapons you have the less chance you have of destroying your main weapon and in the case of the Baal, the Assault Cannon.

So here are my lists for various points level with Dual Baal Predators:


Blood Angels 1500pt Dual Baal Predator list

HQ:
Reclusiarch with Terminator Armour and Stormbolter
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160pts total


Elites:
5 Assault Terminators with Thunderhammer/Stormshields
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225pts total

Sanguinary Priest x2, Jump pack x1, Terminator Armor and Power Sword/Axe x1
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160pts total


Troops:
10 man Assault Marine Squad, Stormshield for Sargeant,Thunderhammer for Sargeant
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240pts

10 man Tactical Marine Squad, Plasma Cannon, Plasmagun and Combi-Plasma for Sargeant
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195pts


Fast Attack:
Baal Predator with TL Assault Cannon with Heavy Bolter Sponsons
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145pts

Baal Predator with TL Assault Cannon with Heavy Bolter Sponsons
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145pts


Heavy Support:
Stormraven with Hurricane Bolters, MultiMelta and TL Lascannons
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230pts total



Blood Angels 1850pt Dual Baal Predator list

HQ:
Reclusiarch with Terminator Armour and Stormbolter
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160pts total


Elites:
5 Assault Terminators with Thunderhammer/Stormshields
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225pts total

Sanguinary Priest x3, Jump pack x2 and Terminator Armor with Power Sword/Axe x1
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235pts total


Troops:
10 man Assault Marine Squad with Stormshield and Thunderhammer for Sargeant
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240pts

10 man Assault Marine Squad with Stormshield and Thunderhammer for Sargeant
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240pts

10 man Tactical Marine Squad with Plasmagun, Plasma Cannon and CombiPlasma for Sargeant
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195pts


Fast Attack:
Baal Predator with TL Assault Cannon, Stormbolter and Heavy Bolter Sponsons
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155pts

Baal Predator with TL Assault Cannon, Stormbolter and Heavy Bolter Sponsons
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155pts


Heavy Support:
Stormraven with Hurricane Bolters, MultiMelta, TL Lascannons and Locator Beacon
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245pts total





Blood Angels 1995pt Dual Baal Predator list

HQ:
Reclusiarch with Terminator Armour and Stormbolter
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160pts total

Librarian w/Sanguine Sword, Might of Heroes or Blood Lance in Terminator Armour and Stormshield
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145pts total



Elites:
5 Assault Terminators with Thunderhammer/Stormshields
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225pts total

Sanguinary Priest x3, Jump pack x2 and Terminator Armor with Power Sword/Axe x1
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235pts total


Troops:
10 man Assault Marine Squad with Stormshield and Thunderhammer for Sargeant
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240pts

10 man Assault Marine Squad with Stormshield and Thunderhammer for Sargeant
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240pts

10 man Tactical Marine Squad with Plasmagun, Plasma Cannon and CombiPlasma for Sargeant
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195pts


Fast Attack:
Baal Predator with TL Assault Cannon, Stormbolter and Heavy Bolter Sponsons
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155pts

Baal Predator with TL Assault Cannon, Stormbolter and Heavy Bolter Sponsons
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155pts


Heavy Support:
Stormraven with Hurricane Bolters, MultiMelta, TL Lascannons and Locator Beacon
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245pts total




Are these lists garbage?   Would you do something different?   Let me know what you think in the comments below.